Re: Academic Press Journal Article Copyright Policy

From: sterling stoudenmire <>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:57:46 +0000

If the author is a published person the search engines will pick up his/her
personal server copy before the bits settle. Once on the net. it is
published.. no matter the finessee used in defining it otherwise.

At 06:09 PM 03/08/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Franck Ramus wrote:
>> Here is what I found at Academic Press:
>> ...
>> 3. Personal Servers
>> 3.2. When an Academic Press journal accepts the work for publication, the
>> authors may post it, in its final accepted form, on their personal
>> (but not on any organized preprint server) with a notice Accepted for
>> publication in <name of journal> as of <date>, until it is published by
>> Academic Press in print or electronic form.
>> 3.3. After publication, authors may post their Academic Press copyrighted
>> material on their own servers without permission, provided that the
>> displays as the first line of the HTML page the following notice alerting
>> readers to their obligations with respect to copyrighted material: This
>> material has been published in <name of journal, issue number and
date, page
>> numbers>, the only definitive repository of the content that has been
>> certified and accepted after peer review. Copyright and all rights
>> are retained by Academic Press. This material may not be copied or
>> without explicit permission.
>> I'd be interested to hear your comments about such a policy. the point i'd
>> like to raise is that they allow archiving on a personal server, but not on
>> an organized preprint server like Cogprints. this suggests to me that, in
>> order to get around it, cogprints should allow me to REGISTER my paper,
>> without necessarily UPLOADING it on Cogprints. the complete reference
>> together with a link to my web page would be sufficient for my paper to be
>> found by a search on cogprints, and to be downloaded freely by everyone.
>> this would not break the agreement. does the Santa Fe protocol allow such a
>> possibility?
>> Franck Ramus
>> Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience
>> 17 Queen Square
>> London WC1N 3AR
>This specific AP policy has been discussed in this Forum before, so I
>will merely summarize.
>(1) The distinction between a "personal server" and an "organized
>preprint server" is completely incoherent, practically, logically, and
>legally. (The last time this AP policy was discussed in this Forum, the
>distinction was between "personal" and "public" servers: equally
>nonsensical; this new wording does not save the distinction, which
>continues to be incoherent.)
>Every publicly accessible site on the web is equally public. The rest
>is just about what you call it, what links happen to get you to it
>(and with browsers harvesting public links 24 hours a day, that's not
>within anyone's control), and where it happens to be cached (sites are
>being cached all the time).
>(2) The same is true about the injunction against "copying" and
>"reposting." Once it's up there in the sky, it can and will move around
>in the sky too, and there is nothing anyone can or will do about it.
>(In AP's earlier wording, the injunction was against "downloading," as
>I recall; equally nonsensical, as every site from which one accesses a
>website "downloads" = copies it; and there is virtually no practical
>difference between "reposting" a publicly accessible web document
>and just linking to it (other than that the latter wastes less disk
>(3) And, yes, the Santa Fe protocol and the Open Archives Initiative
><> are definitely relevant, because they
>will make university authors' "personal" archives completely
>interoperable, so their contents will be searchable and retrievable
>exactly as if they were all in one big archive.
>This may well help make the original subversive proposal
><> -- which, after all, was
>the proposal that authors self-archive all their work on their personal
>servers -- the easiest and most convenient route for freeing the
>literature (compared to central servers like CogPrints), especially
>once the generic Santa-Fe compliant Eprints version of the CogPrints
>software is completed (shortly) and available for adoption (free) by
>universities for "personal self-archiving" by all their authors
>The sensible thing for AP to do would be to recognize the radical
>differences between the paper and online medium, and what can and cannot
>be done in the latter. Formulating untenable and unenforceable
>distinctions in legalistic language does not promote understanding and
>it cannot hold back the inevitable, which also happens to be the optimal
>for research and researchers.
>AP's requirement to place the full citation, source and copyright notice
>is reasonable; AP's requirement to assign to the publisher all rights to
>sell or license the text in paper or online is also reasonable. But
>preventing free online self-archiving by authors is neither justifiable,
>feasible, nor enforceable. It will give pause only to the credulous and
>unreflective, and even that only for a while longer. Better to face the
>inevitable squarely. There is still an essential niche for the
>publisher, and there always will be (quality-control/certification), but
>the rest will have to be ceded to the new open medium.
> Harnad, S. (1998) The invisible hand of peer review. Nature [online] (5
> Nov. 1998)
> Longer version:
>Stevan Harnad
>Professor of Cognitive Science
>Department of Electronics and phone: +44 23-80 592-582
> Computer Science fax: +44 23-80 592-865
>University of Southampton
>Highfield, Southampton
>NOTE: A complete archive of this ongoing discussion of providing free
>access to the refereed journal literature is available at the American
>Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00):
>You may join the list at the site above.
>Discussion can be posted to:
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