Re: Publish OA if you can - self-archive either way

From: (wrong string) édon <jean.claude.guedon_at_umontreal.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:37:47 -0400

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Le samedi 15 octobre 2005 à 20:58 +0100, Stevan Harnad a écrit :
[snip]
>
> So if you want to know the answer to "why not [OA, now]?" it is that
> researchers want OA enough to demand and wait for it to be provided, but
> not enough to provide it (only 15% do that).

Correct.

[snip]

>
> But researchers *can* be mandated (by their funders and employers) to provide OA.
> Which is why the green route to 100% OA is the swiftest and surest one -- if the
> mandates (like Wellcome's and RCUK's) are forthcoming.

Correct

[snip]

>
> It is the unified policy that self-archiving advocates all support. The
> critical point, though, is that the first component, "publish with
> open access if there is an appropriate journal in which you can" is a
> conditional "if" (and in over 90% of cases, the answer is that there is
> none), and moreover it can only be recommended, not mandated. The second
> component can be mandated.

But publicly supported journals can be mandated by their funders to go
OA. We both agree on this. I quote:

"J-CG makes no new points, merely repeating the point on which we have
> already agreed: that apart from being able to mandate self-archiving,
> an institution or funder *could* also mandate OA publishing under one
> exceptional condition (only): when it is that funder itself that is
> funding that journal (as Canada's SSHRC does for 150 journals)."

http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4741.html

>
[snip]
>
> I can only repeat: Researchers can do three things for OA:
>
> (1) Researchers can demand that their publishers provide OA, sign
> petitions for it, threaten not to publish in, referee for or use
> journals that do not provide it (as 34,000 biologists did in 2001,
> to no avail).
>
> (2) Researchers can wait for publishers to provide OA of their own accord
> (meanwhile publishing, where/when they can, in the few journals that
> offer it).
>
> (3) Researchers can provide OA to their own articles, by self-archiving
> them.

(4) Researchers can also help putting pressure on the public funding
bodies that finance journals in whole or in part to have them mandate OA
publishing.
>
> Since none of these things that researchers *can* do has so far been
> sufficient to generate more than 15-25% OA, a funder/employer mandate
> can be a great help at this time.

Correct. And a granting agency mandate for journals they finance can
also be a great help at this time.
>
[snip]

Jean-Claude Guédon

-- 
Dr. Jean-Claude Guédon
Dept. of Comparative Literature
University of Montreal
PO Box 6128, Downtown Branch
Montreal, QC H3C 3J7
Canada
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