Re: Open Letter about OA to the Royal Society by Fellows of the Royal Society

From: Stevan Harnad <>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:47:18 +0000

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Marc Brodsky wrote:

> I would say a careful reading of the two statements show more balance
> and openness in the RSC statement than in the response letter cited below by Harnad.
> I would suggest that we explore new venues for dissemination of information before
> first setting out to undermine successful existing ones.
> If the new venues work for authors and readers, we will not need government imposed
> mandates to make them happen.
> Marc H. Brodsky
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Having just returned from the DASER meeting in College Park, MD, where
the two physics Learned Societies, the American Physical Society (APS)
and the Institute of Physics, took an incomparably more supportive and
collaborative position on both open access and self-archiving (and
the AIP rep just sat in glum silence throughout), I find this regressive
statement from AIP (the separate publisher affiliate of APS), parroting
the familiar party line of STM, ALPSP and the first RS statement,
especially instructive. It speaks volumes about the real underlying
conflict of interest here, and no doubt within the Royal Society too,
where it was clearly the publishing tail wagging the royal pooch in
formulating, without consultation, a statement so dissociated from the
best interests of the RS's members. The RS's shame will be mitigated,
once the head reasserts sovereignty over its tail. Fortunately, the tail
of the APS is not even attached to its body...

    DASER 2 IR Meeting and NIH Public Access Policy (Dec 2005)

    Not a Proud Day in the Annals of the Royal Society (Nov 2005)

    Rebuttal of STM Response to RCUK Self-Archiving Policy Proposal (Aug 2005)

    Open Letter to Research Councils UK: Rebuttal of ALPSP Critique (Aug 2005)

Stevan Harnad

> >>> 12/6/2005 7:49 PM >>>
> Forty two Fellows of the Royal Society (including 5 Nobel Laureates) have
> signed the following Open Letter to Lord Martin Rees expressing concern
> about the Society's statement on open access:
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